Full Transcript: MOTM #581: A Shed and a Dream with Kelly Bryant

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Maestro: Hello, hello, hello, my podcast people, and thank you for joining me for yet another episode of my favorite podcast. Today we got a guest. She has been in the ecosystem, I don't know, for 11 billion years now. It started in the DMs, it's progressed to so much more, the relationship has evolved. And I'm bringing her on today because when I actually first started this podcast, the whole goal of it and the whole goal of the guest episodes was to bring on people who are doing the thing.

To bring on people who are working to intentionally live. Their best lives. And this is something that has really emerged and really come to the forefront, in my opinion, that Kelly does so well, uh, she's in my mafia now. And the questions that she pops up with, she's like an OG in the, in the mafia. Uh, and so every now and again, she'll, she'll pop her head up.

And the questions that she asks every time, I'm just like, I got to get you on the podcast because I think it's really rare to see people that are willing to take the chances and the leaps and do the things that, you know, that you are part of actually curating and crafting and living your best life.

Whether that is being in the online space, which is where our relationship started or moving to working for somebody, uh, leaving jobs, thinking about what jobs, you know, you can take. She's. She's done this, she's been very transparent about it in the mafia and I was like, let me bring you on the podcast because this is why I started the podcast.

So it is long overdue, but without much further ado, please welcome to the show. My good friend, my OG, Kelly Bryant. Welcome, homie. 

Kelly Bryant: What's up? I'm so excited to be here. 

Maestro: Dude. All the way in from Florida. I know I didn't do like a traditional intro, background, because I figured out to do that for you anyway. I was just like, uh, prenatal, postpartum, pregnancy, perimenopausal, you help women, like all the things.

Uh, but it is amazing to have you. You got the OG maestro swag on, joining us from, I hope, beautiful Florida, in the she shed, which speaks to you and how you literally. Literally build your best life. So that's it like, like literally we got to watch this thing come to fruition. I'm like, damn, this woman is next level.

Uh, why don't I be a good host then and pass it over to you? And do you want to give us a little bit of background? How about if you take us to where. We met, we go to that part of the story. So what, what took, what's, where were you before then? What brought you into the online space? That kind of stuff.

Kelly Bryant: Sure. So can I go further back? Is that allowed? 

Maestro: Oh, that's fine. Whatever you want. 

Kelly Bryant: I feel like, I feel like it's helpful contextually. It's helpful to like, I came into this, this like movement space. in a very non traditional way as well, which I think explains why I'm like in and out of it in really non traditional ways.

Um, I studied journalism undergrad, so like, I know how to examine facts, and that's about as close as my, like, training goes into, like, anything having to do with bodies and movement. Um, I did not take one science class in all of college. Um, so, Graduated, I became a writer, I ended up working in marketing at a little company that nobody had heard of called Noom.

Um, people have heard of that now? Uh, which is like pretty sick. Uh, so that sort of is where I kind of got into like the wellness space, health in general. Um, When I was 20, 26, my older sister died very unexpectedly and I blew my life up. Like basically I was just like, holy shit, we all could die anytime.

And like, I went from like having this like really intense startup job where I worked super crazy hours and I didn't hang out with anybody but my coworkers and like partied really hard, but like worked really hard. My husband and I quit our jobs, and we traveled for a year and a half, and I had like, just finished a yoga teacher training, because that's what dinks do.

Like, you're just like, I have nothing to spend my money on or time on, I'm gonna do a teacher training. So, I ended up teaching yoga in Morocco and running retreats, and that was like my first fitness business. Experience. I was like at this like five star hotel with like, no, I like as a, I'm working as a contractor with like no one to report to.

And just like, what are we doing? I don't know. We're going to figure it out. Um, so I kind of came into fitness through yoga. I ended up, um, becoming a bar instructor, a Pilates instructor, later a PT, uh, certified personal trainer, not a PT, um, a CPT. And. CPT. That's sort of where we, where our paths crossed is that like right pre COVID, like that year before COVID, I had started to like work online a little bit and was trying to figure out like, how do I do this?

Like yoga studio online. And like, I was a marketing professional. I knew that I like needed to post on social media and I just hated it. And I had like done a few business courses with. Some people who suck and they do exactly the thing that you always talk about where they're like Like like it's barely a step up from like mlms like hey girly like you you're messaging every single person you've ever known being like Do you feel like your vagina's falling out?

I would love to talk about it Like it's awful and I was just like so grossed out burnt out off of that. I was like I had just had my daughter. So I had like a sub one year old, I want to say, um, no money. Like just, it was rough. And I was like this, everything about, like, I, I know that I want to do this job.

But getting people in the door for me to do this job is so miserable. And you were the first person I'd ever spoke to that was like, well, don't do shit you don't want to do. And I was like, wait a sec, is that allowed? Like, can I just not do gross, grimy stuff? And like, can I price my products at a, cause that's what everybody was saying.

At the time. I think people probably still are. I just don't listen to them anymore. But like. Oh, you need to have a really expensive product. Like you should sell five reps of a 2, 000 product. And I'm like, I wouldn't buy a 2, 000 product. Like what? 

Maestro: That part. I'm like, what? That part. So there's that part.

Kelly Bryant: That was, that was sort of our introduction. Um, I, the first thing I did with you was the, um, Instagram intensive. And I fell in love with it. I was like, Oh, I can just be me. Like I can just be weird and be me and teach, which like, I love teaching and educating. Um, You know, all of my posts don't need to be this like little square that says some word, like I can just be me and do stuff my way and like make that work.

And I was working in my business probably like three, two or three, like, I would say like two fairly successful years from that point, like fairly successful being like. astronomical growth on Instagram for like, I mean, for, uh, there's a word for us, like, there's like something smaller than micro creators.

There's like something smaller than that. 

Maestro: I was like, I'm gonna say, I was like, I think my, although Kelly, I will say it's like monopoly money out there now in terms of just like, what do you mean? You have a million followers? What do you mean you have a hundred thousand, 16, 000? I'm like that. I can't like even comprehend that.

I feel like we are all micro. Unless you have one though. 

Kelly Bryant: Yeah, I think, I think there's something smaller than micro and I am that, but like over it, it felt like overnight I was like, people, like I'm impacting people with free content. People want to work with me. Like, it was just really, really amazing. Um, yeah.

Maestro: That's a cool base. 

Kelly Bryant: It was such a cool place to be. I loved it and I like, 

Maestro: Mm-Hmm. give it to me. 

Kelly Bryant: I went through Legacy, which was like a really great experience because I think more than anything what that showed me is like when you apply, you know, there's like, there's, there's not a right way to do things, but there's like a better way.

Like there's like a, there's like principles. There's like, you know, you should probably check these boxes. And I'm like, I was doing all of those things and I was growing steadily. And it sort of like reassured me that like, there was no silver bullet that I was missing. There was no light switch that was going to turn on.

I was doing well and I couldn't see a place where I would be able to take a maternity leave. Where I would be able to, like, regularly be able to go on vacation and travel. Those were all things that absolutely, like, I could see the ten year plan, but I couldn't see the two year plan of, like, where I was going to be able to live my life in the way that I wanted to.

This. Now. This. This. This. You know, my husband and I talk about this like I think there's a, there's a parallel here, but you, you, you know, Rami and I assume have talked about him a bunch on the podcast before, like that rich life perspective, like it applies with money, but I think it applies with time too.

That it's like, yes, I could have been socking away all that money in my like, quote unquote retirement, like in my future self could have had like a really great lifestyle, but like there is also value in having a wonderful life. Right now, while my kids are little, while I, you know, like, 

Maestro: right now. 

Kelly Bryant: So right now that sort of gave me the, the, like, the assurance that I needed to say, like, I love this business and I want someone else to pay me.

I want to, I want to go get a salary. 

Maestro: When Kelly had that, that realization, that revelation was realization, the revelation there and that's like that, like, Allowed herself to speak that that was the first time that I wanted to bring her in the podcast. And then suddenly it's like, you know, X number of years later and I'm like, I just do it now.

Um, but that is something that we have spoken about that I've spoken about and this idea of like, get a job, like work for someone else. And ideally it's doing something that you want to be doing, which we'll go into next. But that was one of the main reasons. Initially, I wanted to bring Kelly on because in my opinion, she was speaking and still is speaking a message that.

People are scared to say that people need to hear that people don't, that people, if you're like in this entrepreneurial space, it's almost like, well, if you don't keep doing this, then you're a quitter, you failed somehow, like, and Kelly was like, uh, I'm going to go and do this thing. So let's keep going with that.

What, what happened with that? Uh, I want to have a, I want to invest in my life right now. 

Kelly Bryant: So I ended up, I never like, This is a whole separate, like, we need, I need a coaching call separately, but, you know, I didn't say I'm shuttering my business. I just said, I'm gonna, you know, I'm not going to as actively pursue this.

Or initially the, the intention was like, I'm going to do both! Uh, it's, I think it's, it's fine. 

Maestro: I know. 

Kelly Bryant: You know, I think it's funny because you say like, you should, you know, get a job where someone will pay you to do the thing you want to do. Which is great. And I had no creative energy left at the end of the day of like doing that same work for someone else who's paying me a paycheck and then getting to the end of the day and being like, I am not excited to post anything.

I have nothing that I want to talk about on the podcast. Like, I think if you need reps, if you need experience, if you don't know what the heck you're doing. I think getting a job where someone will pay you to do that is amazing. And I think it's really hard to side hustle in the same business, like in the same.

Totally. 

Maestro: Totally. 

Kelly Bryant: So that's, I mean, totally, you know, my, 

Maestro: you spoke about this. 

Kelly Bryant: Yeah. 

Maestro: You like messaged me, you put it in the, in the mafia about kind of the creative stagnation and then the flip side taking the job and then being like, I have a million ideas. Yeah. I feel more clear on what I can create. I want to do stuff.

Kelly Bryant: I

 think it's, you know, I think there's also like a, a season for that and I'm like, just not in that season. Right. Where I'm like the idea of like. You know, I'm watching my kids, you know, pull in the driveway and I'm like, am I really going to sit here and, and write this Instagram post right now? Like, it's just not imperative.

Like, this is just not my highest priority. So I kind of, my, my own business is still ongoing. It's been a little bit on the back burner. Um, I, like, feel this deep, uh, sense of grief every time I get, uh, grief is maybe putting it strongly. We'll call it guilt. Uh, every time I get, like, a, a text message to my Google business number being like, Do you still teach prenatal yoga classes?

I can't find a prenatal yoga class anywhere. Like, and I'm like, Oh, no, I don't. I chose me. Sorry. 

Maestro: It is. I fucking love it. 

Kelly Bryant: So, you know, I love getting paid. On a regular basis and having health benefits and I took that maternity, I got pregnant the month I got hired, which was not on purpose, but that's what happened and I, uh, I just like, I said, okay, I'm going to just do this all in.

I'm going to be the best, best employee this company's ever had. Um, and. It's been a wonderful experience. And I, the thing I was not expecting was that this, this company that I work for is, you know, I'm doing virtual fitness coaching at a tech startup. So this was like sort of going back to my roots of like, Oh yeah, like tech startups.

I forgot about this. Like, I, you know, I came back from traveling. And if we'd been living in a post COVID world, I don't know if I would've been ready to like pursue some like tech marketing job, but that didn't even cross my mind because we moved back to my hometown and I was just not going to be a marketing professional.

Like that's just not a thing that was going to happen. And it didn't, I didn't even consider it. And so being back in the tech startup world, I'm like, Oh, like this, it's a really good fit for me, um, personality wise. Because it's like very fast moving, very, you know, make mistakes and break things, like do stuff and move on.

Like that is my personality, which, you know, I wonder how many of your movement professionals that listen are like that. Cause I feel like I'm a little unusual in that way that I'm like, ah, it's fine. Let's just give it a shot and see what happens. 

Maestro: I, I, you know, I, I wonder that as well. And I would, I would probably wager that it's a good amount of people, but they don't necessarily write in or like communicate cause they're like just doing things.

I think the people that oftentimes like are the ones that are asking questions are the ones that aren't. So they're, so I, the perception could be skewed that more people aren't, but I'm like, I think they're just probably listening and being like, and then I did it and I did this other thing. And I'm like, yeah.

Kelly Bryant: That's great. So I love that. You know, it's what? Go ahead. You ask the questions. 

Maestro: What did the, um, I have two questions here, but I want to try and be good and just ask one and then I'll ask the next one that the job that you took. What did it look like in terms of, I don't want to say work life balance because I fucking like hate that phrase, but you left, uh, the, uh, kind of, uh, you step, step back, pause the entrepreneurial side of things to have a bit more of like the steadiness, predictability from the financial side and the, uh, maternity leave kind of side, what did, what did your days go from looking like to looking like?

Kelly Bryant: It was not like an overnight change because I didn't. Close the business or I did not significantly decrease I kind of was like I'm gonna take this job and I'm gonna see how much time it really takes and I'm gonna see how Much I can keep doing so Like probably total like work Mass was the same But I got to be more selected like I I sort of slowly tapered off like I do not want to teach this Sunday afternoon Zoom yoga class.

Like, breaking up my weekend to teach a Zoom yoga class is not what I want to be doing. I do not want, you know, I have one client who's graduating. I do not want to, I do not want to schedule another one on one client that I have like a committed time to. So it gave me more flexibility gradually. It was not like some amazing, like, oh my God, I was like working 12 hour days and then I was working six hour days and it was amazing, but it was like, I was working 10 hour days and I kept working 10 hour days, but like, I got to have more and more flexibility over time of when I wanted to do that work.

Yes. This. Which is amazing. This. Like that was. It's so good. What I, you know, something. This. Something I reflected on recently. In the mafia was that I had gotten to a place in my business where I just said yes to everything. Like, Hey, would you teach a class at this time? Yes. Would you offer a program that does this?

Yes. Would you, do you have a resource for this? Yes. Let me productize everything. And I think that's like, I think it's good to have a bias for action. It's good to like, just throw shit at the but I felt paralyzed. That I couldn't take away this one yoga class, or like, four people might cancel their membership.

And so it was very liberating to just be like, I'm gonna be fine if I do whatever I want. And it turns out what I wanted over time was to do a lot less. 

Maestro: Yes. For now. But also like, a lot less, but then still a lot. But just different things. 

Kelly Bryant: Yeah, different things, and that's 

Maestro: Like a lot less with this business, but you're still doing a lot of things.

Kelly Bryant: Exactly, and that's, I think, there's pros and cons. I don't think I'll ever be like, this is the blend. Like, this is the correct amount of each of these things to be doing, but it is very freeing to just be like, I can try a little more of this and a little less of that, and if I don't like it, I can go back the other way.

Yes. 

Maestro: This, this, this, Kelly was, was part time an option, not for your business before when you were looking at jobs? 

Kelly Bryant: At the time it was not, but it is now, which is like an interesting, interesting development. Do tell. Um, so the company I work for rolled out that option three, four months ago. I think maybe it makes sense for people who need more flexibility than I do, right?

Like. There's a lot of people who work in the fitness space who are parents, who are primary caretakers, who are students, who have other shit going on, and so I think it makes a lot of sense to work part time if you need that. I do think if you're working as a contractor, the math rarely maths that well, that it makes sense, you know, the way the pay structures are, right?

Like, Go train personal training clients for $35 at the gym. Like, no, like, and, and pay 30% of it in taxes. 'cause you're self-employed. Like it's that 

Maestro: and like, damn. 

Kelly Bryant: Yeah. So I, they do have that option. I haven't opted to do it yet because the whole benefits packet, like the whole situation isn't worth it.

Mm-Hmm. . Um, I actually just. This is, this is the, like, the, the, the, the news drop that you're getting for the first time, the update. 

Maestro: I'm waiting. 

Kelly Bryant: I got real antsy a month or two ago and was like, I cannot do this. Like, there is no room for growth here. I am like the most senior level that there is for people in this part of the organization, you know, the, the, the like coaching part of the organization, tech is, if anyone follows, like, Economics and tech it news.

Like, it's very frozen right now. Like, there's not a lot of hiring happening. There's not a lot of promotions happening. I was like, I got it. I got to go. Like, I got to do something else. Um, started applying for jobs like. I said casually, but like also I was very deeply emotionally invested. Um, like I'm just like casually looking.

And by that, I mean, applying for five jobs every single day. 

Maestro: It's you, 

Kelly Bryant: but I, like, I kind of got in touch with some old contacts, found out an opportunity. And what I was trying to do is like, do I want to get back in the marketing content world? And I was in this sort of place where I'm like, I haven't been doing that for the last five years.

Like I, obviously I built this business. I know what I'm doing when it comes to like online marketing and content creation, but I don't have a lot of like, other than like, look, I did a good job with my business. I don't have like a portfolio. I don't have fancy names on my resume. And, uh, Got back in touch with some, some people I'd work with in the past.

And I ended up finding this opportunity to be a part time marketing content creator for a healthcare IT startup. So like early seed stage startup. So, Kelly, 

Maestro: Kelly, I have chills right now. This is because of all the things that are like, to me, none of the steps we take, the things we do, the things we're interested in, none of it's like, uh, what is the word I'm looking for?

Uh, a coincidence, right? It's like, it's all very much like tied together. And then for this to come and all these things, And very much through your own, like, I'm asking this person to do this. Yes, exactly. Like, it was, you know, 

Kelly Bryant: I'm, I'm like actively looking on LinkedIn, Hey, this person says like, Kelly, you know, if we've worked together in the past and you're looking for, you know, writing jobs, hit me up.

I have some things to like, you know, Find people for, and like, he ended up being the hiring, like the first interview. I was like, Oh, you're interviewing me? Like, I thought you were referring me to someone. So it was like very, very serendipitous. And so I just started that like a week ago. And so you took it.

Wait, I got, I got the offer. I took it. 

Maestro: You still have the other job. 

Kelly Bryant: So I, I happened to also get a, uh, like a sort of, sort of backdoor ish, like resume building marketing opportunity came across my desk at the other company as well, which I also got. 

Maestro: So you have three jobs. 

Kelly Bryant: So I have my business. I have the, the company that I've worked for for the last three years.

And I have this part time job and the company that I've been working for it. There's like, it's a small, like additional little bit of sort of directing the marketing, uh, strategy for the like women's health subset. 

Maestro: That is actually, that is like super special. Like, good fit. Yeah, 

Kelly Bryant: so 

Maestro: That's super, super good fit.

As I 

Kelly Bryant: told my, I, like, These two things were, like, very much Like, cooking at the same time And I was like, You know, if I get both of them, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna fucking see what happens. Like, I'm just gonna do it And see if I die. This 

Maestro: That's it, I'm here for it. So Like, because you're gonna be fine.

All of it's, all of it's remote? This is all 

Kelly Bryant: remote, yeah. Yeah. 

Maestro: This is, and then I was like, I am outside of this kind of, uh, employment. Do they like track your hours or something? It's I bill hourly. Yeah. 

Kelly Bryant: I bill hourly. 

Maestro: Oh, does it, they're not like, they don't have like something on their duty. It's like, Kelly needs to be inside.

Kelly Bryant: There's tools for this. So if you were to, this is like, you should have sponsors for the podcast. If you were to recommend to one of your clients that they audit their time, I would recommend a tracking tool called Toggle. 

Maestro: Toggling is what you like. Yeah,

Kelly Bryant: T O G G L. So, yeah, I just, you know, I just click, this is what I'm working on.

And I honestly don't know. I haven't even invoiced them yet for my first, you know, pay period. But like, I don't think anybody would actually like review the line items. But like, for my own benefit, it's helpful to be like, Hey, I'm spending three hours on this. Like, does that sound right? Like, does that feel like the right level of, uh, so.

All of that is happening. Uh, we're just gonna see if I die. 

Maestro: Back me up for a second. Back it up for a second. Uh, I had written this down as well from the, uh, I'm looking at my notes here and where did I write the, uh, Oh, okay. So in the very beginning, you said that you had no science in college. And then you were like, cool, I'm going to go into these, you know, into yoga applies to these other kinds of things that I'll be like, you don't necessarily like have to be like fucking biology major, but like to go from this end of things to this end and be like, I'm going to do this.

There's a certain level of audacity, which we can all tell you have, but I wanted to stay with me here now with this current role. Like you said, you're like, I haven't done this in five years, but clearly you have the proficiency, like you've done it. And, but you also said in the same breath, you were like, I don't have some massive portfolio.

What? What is it that, what is that underlying audacity, what is that under, maybe that's the word, what is that underlying thing that has allowed you to be like, I have a bias for action, I love that phrase that you said, and I'm going to lean into it, and there's no, you know, you know, people come and they're like, I got all the imposter syndrome and I can't fucking do all that.

I wish 

Kelly Bryant: I knew the answer to this. Like I truly wish that I could like. Bottle it and give it to people because I'm like, you know, like the, the meme, like there is a mediocre white man doing it so badly right now. And like, he does not care. So like, let's just move on. Like, I, I think there's also the, this is something that you talk about too of like, You have to get the, like, the more times you do something that you're like, I'm going to die.

And then you don't die. Like you, you build the confidence to keep doing it. And like that, honestly. The one kind of the, the sort of like the takeaway here of like why I'm really excited about these opportunities. It's not just like, hey, money, but like, it's a trial run of like, I was kind of taking this guess of like, I think I would like to get back into this field.

And it's so nice to just be able to be like. I can put these two things head to head. Like which one am I actually excited to get up and do, and it's okay. Like, then I can, you know, if I get three months into this, like writing thing and I'm like, Oh my God, if I have to read about another, like AI ambient scribe for providers, like I'm going to lose my mind.

Then I can move on. No harm, no foul. So I think that like, as much as I do have a bias for action, I think it's like, It's deceptive to like present this as like, Oh yeah, I just take these moon shots over and over again and like, hope it works out. Like, no, I'm, I'm a deeply practical person. I have worked out like three steps ahead, like, This can go this way, it can go this way, or it can go this way, and I'll be okay.

Like, no matter which of those it is, I'll be okay. Whether, you know, this turns into a full time thing, great. I keep doing this forever, great. I say this was terrible, and cut it, and go back to working for someone else, cool. If I go back to just working for myself, cool. Like, all of these things are okay, I think.

Like, I don't know how to, uh, like make a practice, like, I wish that I could make a practice for like my clients of like, just try the thing, like, just try the right people who have like core and pelvic floor dysfunction are terrified of, of moving their bodies. And I understand that, like, that's very valid because you've had negative, like, you've, you've done too much and gotten injured and it takes, like, it takes a certain amount of, like, grit to say, like, I'm gonna do it again, and I'm gonna know that, like, if I get hurt, I'll be okay.

Like, I am resilient, and I will be okay, and I think that really just, like, applies. At all the levels 

Maestro: and this, it's, it's, it's really quite profound to hear that statement because we know it, but it's also almost feels like an oxymoron. You said, if I get hurt, I'll be okay. And I guess I don't think that we could, you know, you apply hurt to anything.

I don't think that, uh, instinctively, intuitively people actually. Put that together. If I get hurt, it's the most people think like, if I hurt, get hurt with some purely sports or like career ending, if I get hurt. Like, 

Kelly Bryant: but you are, like our brain is designed to make us believe that we will die, like, like that's the, I've heard the nervous system is clean.

She doesn't like you getting hurt. Like that's not, it's not a desirable outcome. And so we will create all kinds of fear around it. I think I was born without that survival instinct. She's like, let's just see what happens. 

Maestro: Kelly's rock climbing with no rope.

Kelly Bryant: That's the hilarious part. Her and that guy, Alex or whatever.

The least, the least sporty, like body worker in the world. I'm like terrified of heights. I have, I have no coordination. I don't, I've never hit, kicked, played a ball sport. None. Actually, that's terrible. I'm like, actually, if I get hit with the ball, I might not be okay. I 

Maestro: That's terrifying. That's terrifying there.

Dude, tell me, can we back up again? I want to get a little bit tactical. What does even searching for these jobs look like? Like, what do you, part of me is like, what are the search terms? Like, how did you do this? Like, I'm thinking for people that are listening and are like, Oh, yeah, I can go get a job, but it doesn't have to be like the same shit job that I had before.

Although you could, because that's there too, but like, what does that look like? 

Kelly Bryant: I mean, 

Maestro: so there's like a network 

Kelly Bryant: component of it, right? Where it's like everyone you've ever worked with and liked, like, go stalk their LinkedIn. Like, what are they up to? Is anyone working at a company you want to work for?

Is anyone doing like, there's been, you know, in the last like, five years, there's been massive, Changes in the, like the way that products are like fitness, physical, like body products are delivered, right? Like there's digital nutritionists, there's digital RDs, there's digital PTs, there's like, so there are probably jobs out there that you don't know exist.

There is probably someone in your network that you've already worked with that is working for some digital platform. If we're just talking like within the body work space, 

Maestro: but 

Kelly Bryant: I also think, um, starting with brands you love is great, right? Like you, you do this on, on like the, the business side of like you occasionally partner with brands that you really like.

And I think that you, it comes across as very authentic that you liked these brands first and then pursued some kind of partnership with them. I think it makes sense the same way with employment, right? The way I actually found my current job is that I was targeted by a Facebook ad. Like I was the target demographic, like, Oh, people who like yoga or post about this or have, you know, signed in at these like class locations.

I was like, what is this? What is someone doing? Like, is someone doing, it's, it's, you know, like if you took Trainerize or one of those, like virtual fitness platforms that many of us use, you know, As individuals, just like if go, go work for someone who's building that, like that's productizing that outcome.

Um, so yeah, I would, I would start with your network and. Product like brands that you love because I mean I feel like I've gotten I've gotten a lot of I mean, there's also just like a level of having a really thick skin But I think if you can like write a kick ass cover letter, that's like this is 

Maestro: This was my, literally my next question.

Yeah. 

Kelly Bryant: I had this conversation with a girlfriend recently that she's like, yeah, I just use chat GPT to write my cover letters. And I'm like clutching my pearls. Like what? Like I could never, 

because if 

you get a cover letter from me, it's going to be like, Oh my God, Bessie, can you believe that you're hiring for this role?

This is perf for us because we are going like, It's not going to be that extreme, but like, it is going to be me. Because I think, I think it's also helpful to like, play to your strengths. The girl I was talking to, like, Has an CPA and has like very fancy names on her resume. Like she's good. Like she's getting in on her resume.

I'm getting in on my dazzling personality. And so I think it's the same, like anyone in your audience. Who's like, I want to change career trajectory. I want to like, get into, like, get into a different type of role. Like you're going on jazz hands. Like that's all you have. 

Maestro: Yeah, this, did you, so you've been working for another company, but if someone feel, cause I hate to say if they have a gap on their resume, but if someone's going from, I was working for myself to now I want to work for someone else, did you, would you suggest kind of the, the language, what language around that to, to show the value of what you've been doing during that I really 

Kelly Bryant: wish, I, I actually, I AB tested this.

I literally changed my resume between like cutting out the, like my own business, cutting out that section. And like, what does it look like if I look like a marketing professional who had a couple of kids and is getting back in to a career versus what does it look like if I'm like, have no direction and just keep changing career path, um, I don't know.

I mean, I think, like, this is, like, a, a, a career coach would be, like, a better resource here than me, like, just talking shit, but, like, I, I think, I think you have to tell a compelling story. Like, you're, you're probably gonna have to Makes sense. network your way into whatever that role is. Like what, if it's local, right?

Maestro: That just makes, that makes so much sense.

Kelly Bryant: If it's local, you're going to a networking group. You're asking someone for an intro, whatever. And you're going to like tell them a story, you know, the, the exact conversation that I had with this former boss when he was like, I'm looking for writers, I like reached out to him and was like, Hey, I'm super interested.

You know, I've kind of been out of the business for a little bit, had a couple kids, I've been doing some other stuff, you know, like having a little bit of fun with, you know, this passion project. absolutely downplayed how fucking badass I am and how wonderful my business was, but like, like I presented the story of like, I'm a professional getting back in the business.

I think you figure out what story makes sense. 

Maestro: This. This. This. This, this, this, I just, I don't want to say that the podcast episode has gone in a different direction. I didn't anticipate, but cause I was like, it's Kelly. We could do any talk about anything, but there's just so much tactical advice. And like, I, I know that you just said, yeah, go to a career coaching like that, but I'm also just like the advice you just gave to me right here, I'm like, that sounds amazing and perfect and very realistic, very, very fucking real, like, which is again, why I'm bringing you on, I'm like, I want to A real person.

Kelly Bryant: The most terrifying thing about job hunting is that it feels like every application is like do or die. And you're like, I have to write my resume once and it has to be perfect, and then I have to like get a job and it's like iterate, iterate. Like, like change your search parameters every week. Like what?

You know, I was. I just had a bunch of things in my search parameters that were like pulling jobs that were not a good fit or were way too senior or like had a lot of responsibilities that I could not do like it doesn't have to be perfect and it feels super high pressure like it's it's nice to not need a job when you're looking for a job, um, which is the vote I was in, which is why I felt like I could kind of go into it and be like, cash like, yeah, okay, I am.

I am. Yeah. Very strategically, like thinking about how frequently I'm applying and who I'm talking to and whatever, but also if you're still like, you know, if you're putting food on your table and no one's cut the lights off, like, keep your head up, just keep applying. You're going to be fine. 

Maestro: Yes. Kelly, you're working from the she shed, uh, which we can actually get into about the building of that.

But. How important, and this is obviously, this is like a very subjective and just I want to know, this is from my own knowledge, how important is it one, like company culture to like, are you talking to other people? I know that some folks in the entrepreneurial space that go in and then they learn, like, actually, I like want to work with other people and have communication with other people.

Do you need that? Do you care about that? Do you have that?

Kelly Bryant: I have a friend who, uh, is going through a job transition as well. So we've been kind of going through this together and she's like, I, Like complete remote work was a complete non starter for her because her only experience with remote work was when her company pushed everyone remote for COVID.

And so she's like, I was in the Bay area in a tiny apartment with no AC all summer, all alone, couldn't talk to anyone, couldn't have any hobbies, couldn't travel, couldn't, I'm like, perhaps not the best parallel because like, for me, I'm like, Oh, I could have coworkers that I see every day. Or. I could fly to fucking Paris with my five year old next week to see Taylor Swift.

Like, I don't know. One of those is a higher priority for me. Like, I just think that whole idea of like who you work with and the company culture and how much, like, No, go live your life. Like you do not need to like, I have worked with a lot of amazing coworkers. None of them were worth losing my goddamn piece.

Like, being alone in my she shed is the best. 

Maestro: Yes. Yes. How does, how, the, like, the entire remote thing, like, this is just different for me. How does this work? You, like, from a company perspective, like, do they ever want to, you Have you in person ever? Fully remote? They want to meet you? Like, what is the difference?

Kelly Bryant: They used to say that it was a priority to get us all together. In person, like that, they, the company specifically that I worked for was in person pre COVID, which is wild. They were like serving a digital product, but like the actual staff worked in person. Um, so they were creating a remote experience for people all over the world, but like everyone was in a room together.

Everyone else, but their employees. So they used to say that. And then I think, you know, three years since I joined, they're like, Yeah, we're not doing that. Like nobody cares. Nobody wants that, that badly. There's no value. Like, so no, they have absolutely no expectation that I will ever work in person. Um, there is like a very robust insofar as like you can have a company culture.

On Slack. Like there is like a ro and my husband is also fully a hundred percent remote. Like he's been there eight or nine months and like has yet to ha you know, they say, we're going to have an offsite. His job's corporate. So they're like, it's delayed because the C suite is deciding that, like, whatever.

But he's never met anyone he works with. And like, they, they, you still have a, like a culture, like. You know, who's a shithead and like, who's great, you can tell that over slack. 

Maestro: I love this. That's funny though, because you can't like, yes, totally. You can. This is, is there, are there thoughts now of where you at with your, your personal business?

Kelly Bryant: Great question. So I registered for Boss Up. 

Maestro: With all the time you have. Here she goes. I don't know. Cause Jill has the registration. 

Kelly Bryant: No, I registered for Boss Up VIP. I'm just coming for funds.

Maestro: Look at this. So this is a real time response folks. As I had no fucking, that's amazing. Um, what? Yeah. So it's fucking amazing. 

Kelly Bryant: I registered for boss up like the, the pre the, you know, the, the early bird presale, whatever went out right around the same time I was doing all this job hunting. And I was just like, you know what?

I need to shit or get off the pot here. Like it is. Emotionally draining to feel like I'm doing a bad job in my business. Like, I feel like I'm letting people down, which like is not, you know, me up here. I'd rather not let myself down, like potential clients, a little bit lower priority. But, um, I was like, I'm going to like force myself to commit to this and either like either go.

Or like not, not go, go and just go to dinner with you guys. Hang out in LA. 

Maestro: Okay. Just hang out. Worst things in October. It's a beautiful time. It's a beautiful time of the year, folks. 

Kelly Bryant: Yeah. I'm, I was like, I'm going to just like make myself like commit to go and either like, either decide to like double down on my business and cut something else out.

Or like actually. Close my business. 

Maestro: Mm hmm. Okay. Okay. That's quite a few months away. So I'm not going to ask for any like more deeper with that. 

Kelly Bryant: You know, and I think there's a, if I may steal a maestroism, there's a story behind the story here, which is like, and Jill says this all the time. Like, what do you not have to do?

Like, I don't have to make a decision about this right now. Like I can literally just compartmentalize, like I am going to make a decision about that. Later and like, yes, in the back of my head, I do know that like, one of my options is to pursue that, but like, I think all of us, but I know that I can get in my own head of like, I need to, I need to have made a decision 

Maestro: and 

Kelly Bryant: like, it is actually, it was really helpful for me to just like, put that on the calendar and be like, that is when I will make that decision.

Maestro: And I love that. Love that. Yes. Cause it doesn't need to be made before then. So I have intentionally put this towards the back end of the conversation because I, you know, I have a soft spot for moms and I feel that when we talk about moms, all that people talk about is the kids and I'm like, but they're a person.

So I put them in the back end of the episode. What does parenting and being able to say specifically being a mom right now, what does that look like? How, how is it with spending time with the kids? You have a five year old and a two year old. Are you able to go away? Do you want to go away? 

Kelly Bryant: Yeah. 

Maestro: What does working from home look like?

Is there a mom guilt around this? Like, just give me the things. 

Kelly Bryant: I mean, like the, the taking my five year old to Paris next week to see T Swift was like not an imaginary anecdote. That is like a real thing that I'm doing. Um, and that, like,

I think we over index on being present for every diaper change and under index on, like, creating incredible experiences. They both matter, right? I'm not, like, I'm not saying, like, you can be a total absentee parent if, like, Like you fly first class, like, I think, but I do think, especially moms, I think that we feel this overwhelming guilt for not doing the most all the time, not doing every single thing.

And we don't even consider like, if I had this, the space, if I had the emotional space, the physical time, the money. What kind of magic could I create in our lives? Because I like, I'm, I'm the child of a travel enthusiast. Like I went to Europe at 13 for the first time and like traveled around Europe for five weeks and that was like unbelievable.

Like that, like I didn't know anyone else who had ever been to Europe. And like when I showed up to eighth grade that year, like no one else had somewhere like that. And I'm like, my kid is going to wear secondhand clothes because I don't want to contribute to textile waste. We are going to drive the shittiest cars and we are going to go to Paris to see Taylor Swift.

Because like, that is, that is like the, that is how I want to teach my kids to live. Is to like love what they love and live big and unapologetically and not give a shit. about like status and consumerism. So obviously you could argue that travel is consumerism, but like, we're not going to discuss that.

Maestro: But we're not, I believe in the experience. 

Kelly Bryant: So I think that's like my, my overall current thesis as a parent is just like, highs and lows are fine. Like you don't have to be like, just, Present always, like, you can have really bad days and you can have, like, amazing experiences and, like, life is, is full and, and mixed.

Um, I also think it's, like, very If you've spent any time in mom spaces, there is always that person who is like, how do you guys do all of this? My husband, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's always husbands. It's never a partners. Um, and I'm just like, I don't know how to tell you to have chosen better in the first place, but like.

Like, my husband does the most, like I took a maternity leave and when I went back to work, my husband was the primary parent. Like I went back to work full time. I was like, I took breaks to breastfeed, but I was out in my she shed, despite the fact that I work from home, I was not available and I worked. I think that people are looking for some kind of like tactical steps to like how to retrain your partner.

And I'm like, couples therapy. Like I, there is no, like, it's not because you're not asking, right? Like there is probably some underlying on everyone's part. Like everybody needs to reassess their roles here. Um. It just told me trying to reconnect. Okay, it's good. 

Maestro: I saw the same thing, too. I just saw the same thing.

Okay, 

Kelly Bryant: so, I think 

Maestro: I mean, I think it's good.

Kelly Bryant: I think having an amazing partner who is, like, doing at least 50 percent of the stuff, and my husband does, like, 70%? Um Like, we split bedtimes, he does 100 percent of the grocery shopping and cooking, he, like, does at least 50 percent of the cleaning, we are both, like, when the kids are sick, it's, what does your schedule look like versus mine, 100 percent equitable.

I, I think, like, that is, that's the, and I don't have mom guilt because I, like, I think I did with my daughter, I felt much more with my first kid. I mean. I felt like I was working. I was very early days in my business and I was like working and not making money and it was just like, what am I doing? And financial stress is huge.

But when you're like, I have them in the best daycare that I can find. I have a partner who is present and doing the stuff I can't do. We have two grandmothers who are helping so much. And I know that that's not all actionable for other people. But I think maybe the. The useful part of it is, like, if you feel like other people have more capacity than you, it's probably because they have other resources.

Maestro: Yes, I mean, we can take a step back. I love what you said. I don't know how to tell you to have chosen better in the 1st place, but I do think that 1 yes. And 2, because I think folks listening to this are. That I think I know folks listening to this are going to be in all different phases of their journeys.

And so. There are people listening to this that are planning things. And I'm like, this is great to hear your journey and to hear the things that can be action that are actionable and decisions that you're like, okay, this is the decision I'll make whether it, let's talk about kids, like to live near where grandparents are,

Kelly Bryant: like huge step back in my career to be close to my parents, my husband's, my husband's an only child and his parents are divorced.

His mom moved here. Cause we live in a retirement community. Like, so that's, you know, like that, that's not an accident. And I think that was like a, a difficult choice. We went back and forth. We lived in New York. We loved New York. And we like had to look at each other and be like, are we going to raise kids in the city?

Like, is that, do we want to do that? Like. Fighting tooth and nail for like a daycare spot and a private school and a, how do you get them places and like, yeah, so, you know, I think you, you have to create conditions to be happy and like, I absolutely have been like, let's go live in a van and like travel all over the country.

And my husband is like, My mom moved here to be near us. We cannot leave with her grandkids. Like, it's not all upsides. Like, yeah, I feel tied down here. Which is like, I'm very allergic to permanence. And like, yeah, that's hard. It feels like I can't go do whatever I want because I need to be here. 

Maestro: But where did you just go?

Did you eat reindeers? Did I just make that up? 

Kelly Bryant: No, you 

Maestro: did. Yeah. Right? Like I have a story in my mind that you also had like a bomb asteroid with reindeer. 

Kelly Bryant: So that's, I mean, that's the upside of having grandmas nearby. We left for, for 10 days.

Maestro: This is the bow of the hand. The bow of the hand. This is, this is a hundred percent that story right there. That like last two minutes is. The whole episode, but those last minutes, I just rewind is like why I wanted to bring you on just the, the, the realistic and also very tactical and very practical way that you speak about things and the intentionality that goes into it and the result, the outcome of that.

And then very much the, uh, what's the word I'll just use the word. The realness of, okay, there's two sides to this. It's not just all the most amazing and I have no concerns and cares, but the things that are the downside I can, I can, I have, I can accept, I can live with because here's the other side of it, this, this.

Dude, how's the weather there? You got any hurricanes or anything? You know, we actually Anything blowing away? Trees fall down? 

Kelly Bryant: Literally this week it became summer in Florida. The, it was like, we didn't, it didn't rain for all of April once. And it was like cool and crisp and lovely. Like not cool. It was not cool.

It was like 76. But like, it was like dry and sunny and lovely. And then like, it rained for 24 straight hours and it is It's hot as, hot as heck and sweaty and humid. There's like this, there's this like recalibration that happens in Florida where you have like the beginning of every summer. I'm like, I need to change deodorant.

Like it is, it is hot. 

Maestro: You remember. Yeah.

Kelly Bryant: And by, and by like August, September, you're like, you're wearing a sweatshirt. Because I have to sit directly in front of my air conditioner. This is so weird. 

Maestro: But you got put AC into this place. Well, I'm, I'm, I'm just in a time. Can you just do a quick little rundown of the building of the she shed, just what went into it and then we'll wrap it up.

But like we've rented it a few times and I'm like, I feel like she needs a shout out. 

Kelly Bryant: She doesn't have a name, which like now I feel kind of bad about not being able to intro her. I'm like, it's been a minute. It's been a minute. Yeah. So she is, um, , I covid, I was renting a space. I, like, I had rented this big space that I could, like host six people for a yoga class.

And then that was in January and then the world shut down. Oh my God. And I was like, shit. Like, oh my God, I did need a place to work. Like I live in a tiny, oh my God. Like our house is 900 square feet. We live in a two bedroom, one bath with Yes. Really? We live in a tiny house. Yeah. I know that. And that's like, again, very conscious choice.

I never want to live in another house. I will build another bedroom before I'm building an outdoor shower and I have a half bathroom in my shed, so that I will never need to move. I have essentially two bathrooms. You're great. And we'll be fine. 

Maestro: How big is this plot? Of land? 

Kelly Bryant: I was about to be like quarter.

Maestro: Big enough that you can do that. You're like 

Kelly Bryant: quarter acre. I don't know. 

Maestro: You don't know. You don't actually don't know. 

Kelly Bryant: If people know Florida, it is not a Florida. Plot, like where like the houses are up against each other. It's like a normal yard, but like not a, not a northeastern. 

Maestro: Listen, I live in LA. 

Kelly Bryant: No, no, it's like I can see the other side of my yard on the long, on the long dimension.

Like, it's not huge, but yeah. No, we live in a tiny house. 900 square feet. We don't have laundry in our house. Our laundry is in another shed. I have two sheds. Okay. 

Maestro: I'm picking up now. 

Kelly Bryant: Yeah. 

Maestro: But you have laundry. 

Kelly Bryant: We do have laundry. Right? Better than New York or LA. We also have a dishwasher. 

Maestro: You have laundry.

Kelly Bryant: Uh. 

Maestro: Look. Look at these amenities. 

Kelly Bryant: So like, I, you know, I'm kind of like examining the cause benefit of like, I need a space to work from. My husband also was working from home. I'm like, we can't, we cannot feasibly work in this 900 square feet. And I can't see, I was seeing someone on one client. So it's like, I had more space than I need.

But I did need some kind of space. So I looked into like, could I rent hourly from a yoga studio? Could I, and it was just like such a headache. And I have this 10 by 14 shed on my property. That was like full of dead roaches and lizard shit. And I was like, potential. 

Maestro: I mean, she had a vision. 

Kelly Bryant: Yeah. I, my, my dad who, uh, built the first house I ever lived in.

Yeah. I was like, what, how, what do I need to do? Like, is this possible to make this a livable space? So we put in hot water, we put, we put in water, we put in sewer, we put in AC, we finished the interior, like put in like these beautiful double doors and window. And 

Maestro: the doors, I was living back the doors, 

Kelly Bryant: the doors are probably the most expensive thing.

The doors in the AC are like the two, I bought the doors and my dad was like, did you really spend 750 on these doors? Cause you know, my dad is. I'm a slightly, uh, lighter version of my dad. My dad is like, is that satisfactory? Is it door? Does it door? Does it open, shut, door you through? Yes? Like, I'm like, no, it must also be beautiful.

Um, 

Maestro: yeah. And the light. 

Kelly Bryant: So he, yeah, it's right. 

Maestro: You can't like be in I honestly think that 

Kelly Bryant: like it would be creepy if I, like it's a small, like the actual space that I'm in is like probably like ten by ten because the back half, like the back few feet is a half bathroom and a closet. Like it would be real weird if like I invited people into my shed in the dark.

Maestro: Yeah, there's a little bit, little shed. I'm like no. You're gonna include a 

Kelly Bryant: picture of her, right? 

Maestro: How long did it take? Yeah, if you send it to me. 

Kelly Bryant: Uh, We broke ground on Halloween and we finished, I was seeing clients February 1st.

Three months. 

Maestro: I remember the journey. Of course, I have, I literally have a picture of my dad 

Kelly Bryant: on Christmas morning in my backyard, re leveling the dirt over the sewer line. Cause he was like, you did not grade the yard properly. And

Christmas morning, everyone else is having like mimosas and Steve's in the backyard raking dirt. 

Maestro: This, this, I think that. I keep bringing the shout up and we brought it up from the very beginning, even before we were on the actual recording this folks, I brought it up because it's such a tangible representation of this idea of building your best life and figuring out what that looks like.

And, uh, I don't want to say making do with what you have, but making the most of what you have and figuring out like, Kelly just said, okay, I have the other space. I was renting it, but it's too big. I have this thing here. I got a vision for it. Let me ask for some help. Let me put in some sweat equity. And now she's, you know, we're doing a podcast and she's running business and has 17 jobs out of this place.

Kelly Bryant: I like, installed this like native plant garden in front of my doors. Like I watched fucking butterflies and bunnies and hummingbirds like all day. It's like there, I think there, there's like, there's something beautiful about like, you know, it's a cliche, but like lemons to lemonade, like I have a shed in a dream and like, now I have hummingbirds.

Maestro: That's the name of the episode, a shed in a dream. 

Kelly Bryant: But I think like, it really does, like, there's, you know, I, I mentioned offhandedly, like I'm building this outdoor shower and like, that's really putting it in perspective. It's like a paver patio, it's gonna have a soaker bath tub, like, it's gonna be fucking gorgeous.

Wow. 

Maestro: Wow. But, 

Kelly Bryant: I'm like, 

Maestro: A tub? 

Kelly Bryant: Like, you have to picture, like, Costa Rica, like, five star resort, it has like, the outdoor shower, you know? Like, Survive. So. Uh huh. 

Maestro: A tub. 

Kelly Bryant: I'm like, I have this tiny ass house with this tiny ass bathroom that needs desperately to be redone because it's literally falling apart and I'm like, how, like, how do I make the most of this?

Like I'm like, you know, I'm working through the, like, what is my ideal bathroom in the house look like? Well, but then I won't have a bathtub. Oh shit. I'm gonna put a bathtub in my backyard. Like. But I'm gonna build the outdoor shower first, and make sure I like the bathtub, and then I'm gonna strategically go back and design the bathroom with the learnings from the, like, I think it's okay to iterate like that's you know 

Maestro: This I love this you got a bias for action, but a penchant for planning.

I like it 

Kelly Bryant: I like bias for action, but that's my new that's my new like linkedin. Uh, like just like, you know, the the 

Maestro: tagline This this is so so good kelly. Uh, if folks want to stalk you Or anything like that. Can they do that? Can they connect with you? Yeah, 

Kelly Bryant: people can 

Maestro: connect with me at 

Kelly Bryant: Kelly Bryant Wellness if you would like to see um, sped up videos of me cleaning my house, videos of bunnies and hummingbirds in my garden, uh, process stories about building my shed and 

Maestro: I watch the stories like TV.

Kelly Bryant: Absolutely no pelvic health content. Then they should follow me. 

Maestro: It's real life content, folks. Kelly is about experience. You're a scientist through and through though. Like I know you said you don't have a science background, no science in college, but Kelly stays experimenting and being like, okay, I'm thinking about doing this thing this way.

And, uh, I'm going to do this for today and time block it this way. Has anyone else done that? Okay. I'll report back afterwards and let you know. What's really 

Kelly Bryant: funny about the, like what social media has become for me is like, you know, I fell in love with, you With engaging with this audience and I mean, obviously between the Instagram intensive and the mafia, like, you know, I, I have all these like friends, like internet friends who I'm actually like, aside from the people in legacy, like I'm going to boss up to like hug internet friends.

Yeah. Um, yeah. And I keep just sharing my life and I'm like, this is, this is like so deeply cringe that like, I'm so glad I don't have teenagers to be like, mom, you posted a video of you cleaning what, but the engagement on my stories is like fantastic. And so it does feel like, you know, if I ever want to go back to this business, like I have this audience that I built, who's interested in pelvic health and postpartum and parenthood.

And they're super engaged, and they know me personally, and whenever I want to turn on the money faucets again, the selling, I will. Until then, little bun bun butts. 

Maestro: Painted her bedroom. I was like, wow, I'm invested in this. We're going with a dark color, that's a bold choice. It's the wrong color. She did it.

Came out great. It came 

Kelly Bryant: out great. There are so many rooms of my house that are so heinous, but like, I'm like, look at this beautiful bedroom!

So good. It's so good. You were trying to wrap up the show. 

Maestro: Kelly, I, I'm cognizant of the time. Give me a, uh, I'm going to do the usual, which is, is there anything else? That you will be missed, that you want to leave the people with, you can say no to. 

Kelly Bryant: You know, I, I, there was one thing I was thinking about that we didn't touch on at all that I wanted to say, which is that like, Instagram all of the platforms have like really beautified, and I think it's lovely, this like idea of, The morning routine and the like, you know, just like really having your shit together and like being doing your somatic exercises and Meditating and like being very peaceful and like I have done that There have been times in my life where I really needed that and I think in the last like Six months or so letting go of the idea that I'm going to be a peaceful person Has been So liberating to just be like, I get up at 5am and I literally climb in front of my computer, like scraping sleep out of my eyes and start working.

There is no process. It is not beautiful. That is who I am. That is when I do my best work and I love it. And I think like, just being able to be like, you don't have to be calm. You don't have to have your shit together. You don't have to be slow and gentle. Like, yes, it's beautiful to be gentle with yourself and to be kind.

And also like. Go live big. Like, 

Maestro: let's go. This, this, you can live in Morocco and be teaching yoga. You could be building a she said somewhere in Florida, you could be having 17 jobs, taking a bath outside. I would rather 

Kelly Bryant: be oversubscribed to everything in my life than less. I want to be drowning. This, 

Maestro: this is what this.

This, this is why I bring Kelly on. I've been having a bunch of coaching calls and this is like kind of a general, general sentiment. And it's nice because you can look back and you have conversations with people and then you can reflect on them and you see the patterns emerge. And like people are kind of feeling like things are bland and kind of tofu.

I'll use that language and like vanilla. And I'm like, because people are scared to fucking go all in on things. They're just like, dip the toe. Like, eh, I don't know what people are going to view me. Or I heard that I'm supposed to be balanced. I'm supposed to be like calm. And it's just like, go all fucking in.

Go in, let it consume you, say no to it afterwards, learn that you don't like it, build the thing, do the thing, tear the thing down, whatever, like, go. I think that's really, really missing. And it says, you know, reason eleventy billion, and I was like, I gotta get Kelly on, like, and I love it. On the episode, you're like, and now I have my fifth job that I said yes to, and I'm 

Kelly Bryant: like, I love it.

Literally, the question is like, am I gonna, like, panic message you and be like, What the fuck was I thinking? Before the episode even gets up. We're all in. Before the episode is even edited and posted. Ha ha ha ha. 

Maestro: Folks, listening to this, like Kelly said, uh, we record this, you know, in the past, it comes out in the future.

So what you should do, the call to action today is message Kelly and ask her, how's it going? How you doing? Just slide in, be like a listen to the episode. How you doing? Yeah. And you can find out for yourself. Kelly, this has been so, so, so, so good. Thank you for being so on it. I'm not surprised. I like sent you the link and you were like done.

Like this, it needed to happen. I just, these like fill my soul and I'm like, ah, I'm ready to go and like do stuff again. So 

Kelly Bryant: just thank you. My pleasure. You're the best. You've been the best. My pleasure. It's so fun. 

Maestro: Surprise. I'd like to see you in a boss up like. 

Kelly Bryant: It's just you, it's just you, me and Jill at the VIP thing, right?

Maestro: That's it. Uh, Pip also. Oh 

Kelly Bryant: good, yay! 

Maestro: So this is the four of us, so. It's already been reserved. I'll see you there, okay? You folks listening, thank you. I know you could have been doing anything and you chose to listen to us and honestly, it was worth it. I'm just gonna say it. I said what I said. It was worth it.

The only ask that I have for you is exactly what I said about, I don't know, a minute and a half ago. If you liked it, if you loved it, if you're picking up what we're putting down, do me a favor and go and message Kelly, everything will be in the show notes, and ask her how she's doing. Let's make sure she's still alive.

See how she's doing. See how the job decisions have gone. Uh, this is a really special episode to me, bringing someone on that's been in the ecosystem for so long, and this really embodies what I really wanted to, the stories I wanted to tell with this podcast. So it's really cool to have someone on it.

And I haven't done a guest episode since quite a bit. Um, and just as a reminder of what it looks like to be intentional with the life that you are crafting and curating and building, and most importantly, All right. All right. That's all I got for you until next time, friends, Kelly and Maestro out.

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